Nebraska just got 100% permission from landowners for building such a pipeline in Nebraska. With a lot of help from the Dem party leadership. No eminent domain threatened.
This project is asinine in terms of collecting, transporting and storing CO2 the gas of life - unbelievably dumb. Where do the billions come from - the unlimited check book of the IRA?
It is ok that communities oppose this form of pipeline, but how will a gas pipeline, essential for supplying gas for power, be any different?
The ethanol scam is unique to the USA and Canada (I think?). Farmers are paid billions to produce thousands of acres of corn for ethanol, and the land and fertilizer run off, present well known problems. It is politically an enormous risk for any president, governor or politician to stop the utter waste of resources in this useless industry. In my opinion it can be stopped, but it will take careful planning and consistent action over many years - thus a non starter?
It totally amazes me when these climate cons simply do not understand nature and how the earth works.They think moving one thing from one place to another,somehow eliminates it from the planet.Plus carbon is NOT an issue.These are the same people that take money out of their right pocket and put it in the left pocket and somehow think they are richer!!The insanity is simply over the top.Misunderstanding nature and making up ideas that do not exist, does not make them real!HA
A fascinating situation. First of all, ethanol production from corn is a lose-lose-lose endeavor. It makes my corn for food more expensive. It takes precious farmland out of food production. It makes my car engine operation less efficient. It is subsidized, so it raises my taxes. Its addition to gasoline is mandated, so it's government interference with the fuel market. No one would add ethanol to gas if it weren't mandated.
Ohio and North Dakota have already granted permits for this crazy, expensive pipeline idea for expensive and completely unnecessary carbon capture from completely unnecessary ethanol production, so South Dakota's resistance is very important.
Thank goodness there is resistance to pumping CO2 underground in North Dakota. The utility (or government? - not sure) is trying to bribe the N.Dakota farmers by paying them to allow this CO2 to be stored under their land, but no one can agree how far the CO2 will spread underground, so how many farmers should be paid? Who can say this CO2 won't eventually escape and leak back up to the surface - in which case every dime of the project would be wasted, even if CO2 were a threat, which it isn't.
Ethanol is a massive failure on an EROEI basis, and adding CO2 capture to that already uneconomic and inefficient process is so monumentally stupid that only a politician could have thought it up.
How about this? Let's drop ethanol as a component in our gasoline. Let's return gasoline to what it was -- refined oil. Let's return the farmland to producing food for humans and farm animals rather than fuel for motor vehicles.
Does the economy benefit in any way from producing ethanol for use in fuel? What does ethanol do beyond providing tax credits for producers?
Nebraska just got 100% permission from landowners for building such a pipeline in Nebraska. With a lot of help from the Dem party leadership. No eminent domain threatened.
This project is asinine in terms of collecting, transporting and storing CO2 the gas of life - unbelievably dumb. Where do the billions come from - the unlimited check book of the IRA?
It is ok that communities oppose this form of pipeline, but how will a gas pipeline, essential for supplying gas for power, be any different?
The ethanol scam is unique to the USA and Canada (I think?). Farmers are paid billions to produce thousands of acres of corn for ethanol, and the land and fertilizer run off, present well known problems. It is politically an enormous risk for any president, governor or politician to stop the utter waste of resources in this useless industry. In my opinion it can be stopped, but it will take careful planning and consistent action over many years - thus a non starter?
It totally amazes me when these climate cons simply do not understand nature and how the earth works.They think moving one thing from one place to another,somehow eliminates it from the planet.Plus carbon is NOT an issue.These are the same people that take money out of their right pocket and put it in the left pocket and somehow think they are richer!!The insanity is simply over the top.Misunderstanding nature and making up ideas that do not exist, does not make them real!HA
A fascinating situation. First of all, ethanol production from corn is a lose-lose-lose endeavor. It makes my corn for food more expensive. It takes precious farmland out of food production. It makes my car engine operation less efficient. It is subsidized, so it raises my taxes. Its addition to gasoline is mandated, so it's government interference with the fuel market. No one would add ethanol to gas if it weren't mandated.
Ohio and North Dakota have already granted permits for this crazy, expensive pipeline idea for expensive and completely unnecessary carbon capture from completely unnecessary ethanol production, so South Dakota's resistance is very important.
Thank goodness there is resistance to pumping CO2 underground in North Dakota. The utility (or government? - not sure) is trying to bribe the N.Dakota farmers by paying them to allow this CO2 to be stored under their land, but no one can agree how far the CO2 will spread underground, so how many farmers should be paid? Who can say this CO2 won't eventually escape and leak back up to the surface - in which case every dime of the project would be wasted, even if CO2 were a threat, which it isn't.
Ethanol is a massive failure on an EROEI basis, and adding CO2 capture to that already uneconomic and inefficient process is so monumentally stupid that only a politician could have thought it up.
More shell games of the green grift. Who will get rich on the cc scheme…..
How about this? Let's drop ethanol as a component in our gasoline. Let's return gasoline to what it was -- refined oil. Let's return the farmland to producing food for humans and farm animals rather than fuel for motor vehicles.
Does the economy benefit in any way from producing ethanol for use in fuel? What does ethanol do beyond providing tax credits for producers?
Totally agree.
Spot on !!
Why, why, why?